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Re: "Classic" Rallying

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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:20:28 GMT

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"NeedforSwede2" <carl.robson(at)bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message

news:MPG.1da1c0bd21ed1dfd98b412(at)news.individual.net...

>In article <3sXYe.1616$NO2.396(at)newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, blank(at)128.0.0.1

>says...

>> Well I`m thinking old Skodas as they did well in there day, should not be too

>> hard to work on and I guess there will be a few about still? Relatively

>> cheap?

>> NeedforSwede2 can you comment on say using a 130 rapid? Dose anyone compete

>> in

>> that class?

>>

>>

>>

>Ebay is your best bet.

>A 136 would probably be a better idea than a 130 (136 had the 8 port

>alloy heads that would run unleaded, the 130 was an irojn head 5 port

>engine that needed lead petrol).

>If you can`t find a 136 rapid look for a cheap Favorit, and any Estelle

>or Rapid (130 Estelles had the best interior of the Estelles) and blag

>the parts needed to convert (some say you need the sump and oil pickup,

>you will need manifolds).

>

>120 Estelles came in 4 and 5 speed and either swing axle or semi

>trailing arms.

>

>130 Estelles and all Rapids came with Semi trailing arms.

>

>There are twincarb conversions for Weber/Dellortos (mainly manifolds).

>Or either and jet the Standard Estelle/Rapid twin choke Jikov carb, fit

>a Favorit Jikov (licensed Pierburg) twin choke and get the advantage of

>an auto choke. It is a straight bolt on if you use the original spacers

>etc.

>Also Ford DGAV and DGAS Carbs from 1.6-3.0 Capri/Cortina/Granada/Early

>Sierras fit the same bolt pattern. You will need to rejet and you will

>need to open out the standard manifold. But it works and will probably

>be cheaper than an intake manifold and DCOE/DHLA conversion. DGAV are

>sequential twin choke (small choke opens first for economy, then both

>open and kick you in the back). DGAS carbs dump both barrels at once in

>parallel. Lousier economy, less low end, all up top with the revs.

>

>130/135/136 models used 4 pot Calipers and are very good. Also pads from

>Metros fit so you get all the Mintex performance grades. 120 and 105

>models only got twin pots and pad choice is available, but not great.

>120 swing arm models need a special puller to remove the rear brake

>drum, all swing axle models don`t need anything special. The shoes are

>the same, and mintex performance ones are avialable Goodrich still make

>hoses.

>

>John Shelley is a Skoda God. He owns one of Haugland`s old 130LR`s from

>the Ulster rally. He works and lives in CZ, so he is getting it restored

>as while trhe engine is pukka, the extra lightened, unrustproofed body

>is looking rough, and the barum race tyres are starting to get a bit

>threadbare.

>

>He can source manifolds, better discs/calipers, hydraulic handbrake/rear

>disc conversions (although you lose the cable brake might be an MOT

>problem) and group B style bigger bore longer length free flowing cross

>over exhausts.

>It is worth the £10.50 a year to join the Skoda club. You get to find

>out where the meets are, and when John is going to be over in the UK, as

>you ask him to get you stuff, meet him at one event, give him the money,

>and then get it off him at the next. He also posts on the owners club

>forums. He knows most of the suppliers in CZ (used to be the supply

>factories for Skoda Motorsport Pre-VAG, now they make limited run

>enthusiast stuff).

>

>I beleive http://www.bjornsten.dk/gb/gb-menu.htm still have fun rallying

>as do http://freespace.virgin.net/skoda.chap/tbc/tbc.htm they use

>"other" cars now, but used to run Estelles.



Thanks Carl that`s the sort of information I was looking for.













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SUBJECT: Re: "Classic" Rallying
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From: NeedforSwede2 <carl.robson(at)bouncing-czechs.com>

Subject: Re: "Classic" Rallying

Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:24:59 +0100

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In article <w5WZe.7237$3q4.2188(at)newsfe5-gui.ntli.net>, blank(at)128.0.0.1

says...

>

>"NeedforSwede2" <carl.robson(at)bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message

>news:MPG.1da1c0bd21ed1dfd98b412(at)news.individual.net...

>>In article <3sXYe.1616$NO2.396(at)newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, blank(at)128.0.0.1

>>says...

>>> Well I`m thinking old Skodas as they did well in there day, should not be too

>>> hard to work on and I guess there will be a few about still? Relatively

>>> cheap?

>>> NeedforSwede2 can you comment on say using a 130 rapid? Dose anyone compete

>>> in

>>> that class?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>Ebay is your best bet.

>>A 136 would probably be a better idea than a 130 (136 had the 8 port

>>alloy heads that would run unleaded, the 130 was an irojn head 5 port

>>engine that needed lead petrol).

>>If you can`t find a 136 rapid look for a cheap Favorit, and any Estelle

>>or Rapid (130 Estelles had the best interior of the Estelles) and blag

>>the parts needed to convert (some say you need the sump and oil pickup,

>>you will need manifolds).

>>

>>120 Estelles came in 4 and 5 speed and either swing axle or semi

>>trailing arms.

>>

>>130 Estelles and all Rapids came with Semi trailing arms.

>>

>>There are twincarb conversions for Weber/Dellortos (mainly manifolds).

>>Or either and jet the Standard Estelle/Rapid twin choke Jikov carb, fit

>>a Favorit Jikov (licensed Pierburg) twin choke and get the advantage of

>>an auto choke. It is a straight bolt on if you use the original spacers

>>etc.

>>Also Ford DGAV and DGAS Carbs from 1.6-3.0 Capri/Cortina/Granada/Early

>>Sierras fit the same bolt pattern. You will need to rejet and you will

>>need to open out the standard manifold. But it works and will probably

>>be cheaper than an intake manifold and DCOE/DHLA conversion. DGAV are

>>sequential twin choke (small choke opens first for economy, then both

>>open and kick you in the back). DGAS carbs dump both barrels at once in

>>parallel. Lousier economy, less low end, all up top with the revs.

>>

>>130/135/136 models used 4 pot Calipers and are very good. Also pads from

>>Metros fit so you get all the Mintex performance grades. 120 and 105

>>models only got twin pots and pad choice is available, but not great.

>>120 swing arm models need a special puller to remove the rear brake

>>drum, all swing axle models don`t need anything special. The shoes are

>>the same, and mintex performance ones are avialable Goodrich still make

>>hoses.

>>

>>John Shelley is a Skoda God. He owns one of Haugland`s old 130LR`s from

No worries.

They aren`t as popular now rallying as they used to be (Favorits and

Felicias are cheap enough), but they have their fans who rally for fun

rather than to win.

--

Carl Robson

Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz

Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com






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Subject: "Dude I almost had you"

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